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2008-09-27 — blogspot.com
If WaMu had been placed in liquidation I am pretty sure the seniors would have got something. If the senior debtors had been allowed to conduct an auction for WaMu (compromising all the junior stuff including the prefs I owned) then they would have got something. ... ... the future of WaMu was uncertain. They clearly had plenty of losses coming at them. The company estimated those losses as 19 billion. JPM has estimated 31 billion. On both those numbers incidentally the senior debt holders in WaMu should – in an orderly liquidation – be made whole. Get that – on JPM’s own numbers the senior debt holders should have been made whole – and yet the rights of these debt holders were confiscated. ... The OTS/FDIC carried a risk – the risk being that the losses would be so large that would wind up costing the government money. The government solved its problem – and it did it by taking away the rights of the senior debt holders to an orderly liquidation – when on the numbers given by the ultimate acquirer the senior debt was likely to be whole or near to whole. ... It gets better -- unintended consequences to follow:
This is why direct "nationalization" of Wall Street is bad -- it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy through which markets are dismantled in an accelerating manner, necessitating even more government support (even if that support is only "soft" backing and rule-changing that favors another nominally-"private" market entity, like JP Morgan). Indeed; now there's this: Wachovia suitors may play hard to get, eyeing the JP Morgan / WaMu model: ``WaMu's takeover has proven that there's an easy way, if the FDIC is involved,'' said Sean Egan, president of Egan-Jones in Haverford, Pennsylvania. ``You kick the hell out of the equity holders and bondholders. That may be the new model for bank takeovers.'' This is horrible. Now we have neither orderly bailouts nor orderly bankruptcies. The government is plunging the markets into outright chaos. Incidentally, Paulson surely must have considerable Treasury security holdings in his "blind trust". Bet those are doing well these days. source article | permalink | discuss | subscribe by: | RSS | email Comments:
Aristotle at 08:48 2008-09-28 said:Some shareholders of failed savings and loans tried to argue "taking without just compensation" as a result of FSLIC seizure of entities during the savings and loan crisis. To my knowledge, no such lawsuit succeeded in forcing FSLIC or FDIC to disgorge any revenue from sales of the insolvent institutions. If somebody remembers such a case, I would love to hear about it. It is possible that the well healed creditors of WaMu could file and prosecute a fairly straight forward takings case BUT they might be rowing upstream, given the Federal courts general reticence about interfering, after the fact, with the administrative "business judgment" of a Federal agency. Personally, if I had been a major creditor, I would have tried to get injunctive relief against the OTS and FDIC before the seizure. I know that is really hard to do in Federal court, and that it flies in the fact of the principle that you cannot enjoin the government's exercise of a power held by them, but at least it might have made the OTS and FDIC think twice about what they were doing, as well as setting the stage for prosecuting the taking theory, after the seizure, but in the same case with the trial judge already educated and leaving no room for a laches argument against the creditors. Permalinkdave1969 at 19:22 2008-09-28 said:Heres a link to a case from 1993 http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE4DB173DF93BA25751C1A965958260&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss Permalinkadd a comment | go to forum thread Note: Comments may take a few minutes to show up on this page. If you go to the forum thread, however, you can see them immediately. |